Taking Things that Kill Infection
Could be Only 1/6 of the Solution
It’s common for people to try to kill infection with a variety of things that don’t work fully but they keep on trying for years thinking if they just find the right thing or combination of things it will work.
There are many more factors involved.
Let’s look at all the parts of the process of controlling pathogens as it happens naturally in more complexity, not just from the point of view of simple external intervention, which is actually totally medical paradigm, even if you are using only natural things like botanicals.
I take a holistic approach with system thinking as used by engineers using flow charts to put together all we know to identify all the parts of a healthy normal system and think about what could go wrong and all the weak links that need to be addressed.
I will use some hypothetical numbers here to express the importance of each part of the immune system to help visually the whole system of immunity.
The relative importance of each part will vary by individuals so all solutions should be highly customized based on some kind of methodical assessment, not random advice in social media comments.
Killing Infectious Pathogens or controlling mutated overgrowth like Candida in fungal form:
What if only one third of the entire process is about killing pathogens?
And what if only half of that, or 1/6 the total solution, can be done by external intervention, and the other half by the immune system’s white blood cells?
There are numerous types of white blood cells, nuetrophils, macrophages, NK cells, lymphocytes, that indicate there are many ways to totally defend a system.
Why should we assume that a few outside interventions can replace that?
Why do you think people get sick in the first place—maybe because they have weak immunity?
Here is another 1/3 of the immune system:
And just because we swallow something does not mean it goes where it needs to.
The lymph system, working with the blood, is the circulation and the delivery system that moves the major part of the body’s liquids. The fluid between cells is channeled through lymph vessels that flow through lymph nodes where white blood cells can neutralize pathogens and toxins and be distributed to tissues for local attacks, too.
They lymph system depends on muscle contractions to move it so as people get sick for any reason and move less they lymph can quickly stagnate. Then waste is not fully removed from intercellular fluid and cells, and the blood cannot deliver as many nutrients to cells, so a process of suffocation and starvation starts to creep in. All tissues and organs depend on the lymph for nutrition and detox so it is of overarching importance. Lymph stagnation can impair circulation to hypothetically limit the delivery of what you take to kill infection. This is why sometimes people don’t get any progress until they do a lymph massage. (look it up)
Another one third is probiotics: good bacteria and yeast.
What people don’t realize is that our probiotics or micorbione all over our body, not just our gut, is what coordinates the immune system. The bugs communicate to other parts the immune system that provide the various types of white blood cells, like the spleen that regulates their release to the lymph nodes, etc.
The vaguely explained “autoimmunity” probably has a lot to do with regulation problems due to microbiome weaknesses, with pathogens possibly scrambling signals about what to send where and in what amounts instead of overreactions, lack of the right kind of reactions, etc. I think there is a lot we don’t know with precision.
Some beneficial bacteria can help fight and colonize parts of the intestines to protect against pathogenic occupation.
It seems like the common understanding is that we a need a lot of killing followed up by a little probiotics that will grow on their own. Actually, the needed ratio may be the reverse: a little killing with outside herbs, etc, with a lot of probiotics to quickly replace the terrain to avoid backsliding right after it wears off, and start to coordinate the immune system and improve digestion and production of nutrients to boost white blood cell production.
In any case people always need more beneficial bacteria to help digest food and produce nutrients, some of which goes to production or white blood cells. Probiotics feed on food and prebiotic fibers to create nutrients short chain fatty acids like butryrate that are crucial nutrients for the intestines and hormone like activity throughout the body.
Many organs are involved in producing the army of white blood cells that are specialized for every kind of assault.
Chronically ill people typically have multiple nutrient deficiencies that affect all cells including of the organs that produce and distribute white blood cells: bone marrow, thymus, spleen. Weak organs can be strengthened by eating the same organ from beef, etc. The intestinal lining that becomes too permeable with leaky gut is another strategic point.
Another thing deficiencies do is allow healthy bugs to mutate into pathogenic form, like candida yeast mutating to fungal pathogenic form when there is a biotin deficiency. I would like to see a long list of such examples, but this information is quite marginal in discussions. This is part of terrain theory of dysbiois or internal balance.
Nutritional deficiencies are top priority no matter what the symptoms because they help with all root causes including boosting detoxification capabilities, which means easier handling of die-off reactions and endotoxins continually produced by pathogens.
This is a whole systems approach to broaden strategy to address all potential weak links in health. I already explained that I can’t give any advice because all problems and solutions are complex and individualized, so I can’t guess what anyone needs in a Facebook comment. General information can be looked-up.
There are many more factors involved.
Let’s look at all the parts of the process of controlling pathogens as it happens naturally in more complexity, not just from the point of view of simple external intervention, which is actually totally medical paradigm, even if you are using only natural things like botanicals.
I take a holistic approach with system thinking as used by engineers using flow charts to put together all we know to identify all the parts of a healthy normal system and think about what could go wrong and all the weak links that need to be addressed.
I will use some hypothetical numbers here to express the importance of each part of the immune system to help visually the whole system of immunity.
The relative importance of each part will vary by individuals so all solutions should be highly customized based on some kind of methodical assessment, not random advice in social media comments.
Killing Infectious Pathogens or controlling mutated overgrowth like Candida in fungal form:
What if only one third of the entire process is about killing pathogens?
And what if only half of that, or 1/6 the total solution, can be done by external intervention, and the other half by the immune system’s white blood cells?
There are numerous types of white blood cells, nuetrophils, macrophages, NK cells, lymphocytes, that indicate there are many ways to totally defend a system.
Why should we assume that a few outside interventions can replace that?
Why do you think people get sick in the first place—maybe because they have weak immunity?
Here is another 1/3 of the immune system:
And just because we swallow something does not mean it goes where it needs to.
The lymph system, working with the blood, is the circulation and the delivery system that moves the major part of the body’s liquids. The fluid between cells is channeled through lymph vessels that flow through lymph nodes where white blood cells can neutralize pathogens and toxins and be distributed to tissues for local attacks, too.
They lymph system depends on muscle contractions to move it so as people get sick for any reason and move less they lymph can quickly stagnate. Then waste is not fully removed from intercellular fluid and cells, and the blood cannot deliver as many nutrients to cells, so a process of suffocation and starvation starts to creep in. All tissues and organs depend on the lymph for nutrition and detox so it is of overarching importance. Lymph stagnation can impair circulation to hypothetically limit the delivery of what you take to kill infection. This is why sometimes people don’t get any progress until they do a lymph massage. (look it up)
Another one third is probiotics: good bacteria and yeast.
What people don’t realize is that our probiotics or micorbione all over our body, not just our gut, is what coordinates the immune system. The bugs communicate to other parts the immune system that provide the various types of white blood cells, like the spleen that regulates their release to the lymph nodes, etc.
The vaguely explained “autoimmunity” probably has a lot to do with regulation problems due to microbiome weaknesses, with pathogens possibly scrambling signals about what to send where and in what amounts instead of overreactions, lack of the right kind of reactions, etc. I think there is a lot we don’t know with precision.
Some beneficial bacteria can help fight and colonize parts of the intestines to protect against pathogenic occupation.
It seems like the common understanding is that we a need a lot of killing followed up by a little probiotics that will grow on their own. Actually, the needed ratio may be the reverse: a little killing with outside herbs, etc, with a lot of probiotics to quickly replace the terrain to avoid backsliding right after it wears off, and start to coordinate the immune system and improve digestion and production of nutrients to boost white blood cell production.
In any case people always need more beneficial bacteria to help digest food and produce nutrients, some of which goes to production or white blood cells. Probiotics feed on food and prebiotic fibers to create nutrients short chain fatty acids like butryrate that are crucial nutrients for the intestines and hormone like activity throughout the body.
Many organs are involved in producing the army of white blood cells that are specialized for every kind of assault.
Chronically ill people typically have multiple nutrient deficiencies that affect all cells including of the organs that produce and distribute white blood cells: bone marrow, thymus, spleen. Weak organs can be strengthened by eating the same organ from beef, etc. The intestinal lining that becomes too permeable with leaky gut is another strategic point.
Another thing deficiencies do is allow healthy bugs to mutate into pathogenic form, like candida yeast mutating to fungal pathogenic form when there is a biotin deficiency. I would like to see a long list of such examples, but this information is quite marginal in discussions. This is part of terrain theory of dysbiois or internal balance.
Nutritional deficiencies are top priority no matter what the symptoms because they help with all root causes including boosting detoxification capabilities, which means easier handling of die-off reactions and endotoxins continually produced by pathogens.
This is a whole systems approach to broaden strategy to address all potential weak links in health. I already explained that I can’t give any advice because all problems and solutions are complex and individualized, so I can’t guess what anyone needs in a Facebook comment. General information can be looked-up.
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Free Assessment
See how I support you fully in
Health Coaching Steps
I work over video: Facebook, Zoom, Google, from Michigan, USA
Hess.PaulC@gmail.com
Follow me on FACEBOOK:
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Primal Rejuvenation
Systematic
enough to make a difference
Simple
enough to implement
Sensitive
to individual needs