Thiamine and B Vitamins
Thiamine or vitamin B1 has been an overlooked part of nutrition.
Thiamine deficiency can help explain many health conditions.
Deficiency symptoms include:
- Gut, digestion and especially constipation.
- Circulation; cardio vascular and lymph like swelling lower legs.
- Low detox capability. Thiamine is essential in the three interrelated process of methylation, glutathione and sulfation.
- Energy production: thiamine helps utilize carbs and fat for energy instead of gaining weight or not being able to put on weight at all.
- Neurological:
- Peripheral neuropathy
- Brain cognitive
- Brain stem physical functions like sleep and autonomic nervous system regulation or dysregulation referreed to as dsyautonomia. Thiamine deficiency in the brain stem.
- Traumatic brain injuries disrupt thiamine related enzymes.
Thiamine was the first B vitamin discovered in one of the first forms of chronic fatigue, beri beri, which I am told translates into “I can’t do it.’ Beri beri surfaced in Japan after brown rice was milled into white rice which removed the hull, bran and germ that have thiamine and other B vitamins.
Deficiency is also created by additional toxic stressors like alcohol, caffeine, and the anti parasitic flagyl.
All toxins require more basic nutrients to detoxify and thiamine is part of at least three core processes noted above.
Athletes that train hard also burn up more and it becomes an aspect of overtraining.
Deficiency is difficult to detect in lab tests and I prefer to experiment with nutrients that are worth trying anyway, especially if they are whole foods with multiple benefits.
This is a complex problem and you can’t just take a supplement.
I’m not going to give any recommendations or personal advice in comments.
Thiamine works with other nutrients that are needed to get results and that need to be increased evenly to counteract reactions.
- Potassium, which, in turn depends on magnesium and sodium, like I always say are prerequisites for all nutrients.
- Glutathione
- Riboflavin B2
- Niacin B3
- Sulfur and molybdenum
- Any weak link in the body will hold back everything.
As we use nutrients to speed up energy production in the body all nutrients are burned faster, which creates more nutrient deficiencies at the same level of inputs. So there can be progress, that stops with sometimes worse symptoms, if, for example, detoxification started and was not finished leading to redistribution in more vulnerable areas of the brain, etc.
This is why I prefer to get as many nutrients as possible from whole food sources, at least as a base for helping to utilize isolated supplements.
Isolated supplements have lots of consequences that can create long term damage and bring on deeper chronic fatigue.
We see this with thiamine supplements, just as with other isolated B vitamin supplements that were used to address other methylation SNIPS.
The RDA for thiamine is around 1 mg.
We need more with chronic deficiency and greater stress loads to process like toxicity but it’s not clear how much more.
Two types of experiences with isolated thiamine supplements I observe:
- Don’t feel anything until mega doses of like 1000mg are used.
- Any dose seems to produce negative symptoms.
Reactions are called “refeeding syndrome” after starving people who die if fed too quickly.
It takes time for everything to work together and digestion to strengthen.
The proponents of supplement say that we need those big doses but I don’t think a fair comparison has been made with the best whole food sources that are more utilizable.
I can’t say exactly what the best whole food sources are right now.
It’s not an either or choice, but I always prefer to exhaust whole food sources first, which at least supports the use of isolated supplements of B vitamins.
In my experience, some B vitamins are less sensitive to cofactor dependence like B12 and Biotin.
Thiamine appears to be highly sensitive to working together with other nutrients, which also illustrates how important it is in utilizing other nutrients, too, and therefore to our health.
Too much B6 can be a problem and adding it to a multi B can ruin it.
Taking a multi B does not mean you are fine.
Testimonials of success with all kind of conditions are often dramatic.
I’m most concerned with sensitive people who are very sick and can even hurt themselves with unplanned experimentation. They need to carefully select the highest quality sources of multiple nutrients and figure out what to adjust as reactions occur.
The discussions I am following are not considering all the food sources of B vitamins and cofactors.
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