The Great Supplements Rip-Off
Whole food sources are cheaper and richer that isolates.
Reverse engineering supplements by reading labels is a good way to learn about nutrient chemistry and discover the source of the extracts, which you can often get in a whole food source that has more nutrients in fresher and less denatured form.
Whole herb often have over 100 more additional nutrients all working together as nature designed. As bulk powders with less processing they are cheaper, too.
Examples:
AMPK activators are related to burning glucose and fat for mitochondrial energy in a wide variety of tissues including the liver and immune system, just to indicate that mitochondria is about all cells of all organs.
There is patented source in many products called Actiponin.
Wow, they created new word, which is really deep, they must know something about chemistry I don’t. Except that magnesium stearate food in many products totally ruins it for me.
Acitponin and AMPK activators in general usually relay on an extract of Gynostemma usually sold as Jiaogulans
Gynostemma has 144 kinds of saponins according to Chinese Herbalist, Ron Tee Garden founder of Dragon Herbs, which are also some of the most useful ingredients in the more well known tonics ginseng.
Dragon Herbs has a lot of information on herbs. They sell high quality products that are well sourced and with rare variations of reishi and ginseng, for example, as spiritual tonics as well.
Ron says that gynostemma is one of the greatest tonics of all and is called “miracle grass” in Asian for longevity. This means its benefits are very wide ranging and continuous, not “for” a particular symptom and then you are done
It is much cheaper so can be consumed in higher quantities. Dragon Herbs only sell it in capsules usually with other herbs as a specialty product, as they are high end business. There is much more value to buy it in bulk by the pound.
So eat grass to become as strong as a bull, like the vegans say.
No, wait, that’s don’t drink milk because it will turn you into a 2000 pound cow and a total idiot.
I don’t understand vegans, they are a little too deep for me, I’m just a simple guy.
I feel like mooing now.
Biotin supplements are all synthetic and I can’t tolerate any of them.
I only know of one whole herb source from Sesbania. It’s an extract that works, but only part of the source herb which has many more nutrients, is less denatured from extraction and cheaper in bulk.
You can’t find in the USA even from Indian herb suppliers even though it is commonly used in Ayurvedic herbal medicine as agastya, agasti, august tree leaf, and hummingbird tree leaf.
You have to order it from India. This is how distorted and poorly developed the market is.
Suppliers will list benefits a mile long, so long I will not even attempt to summarize.
It’s “for” dysentery. Oh wait, now it no longer has biotin, because it’s for something else. I actually have to tell people when I am being sarcastic.
Quercetin is a flavonoid with many benefits.
The highest source is said to be Japanica Sophora flower buds, which also have the flavs rutin and luteolin.
Extracts are often sold separately, but it would be better to buy the whole herb in bulk to get all three and other nutrients you don’t know about.
I find it is more effective to use various fruit and berry sources for my flavonoids with higher levels of vitamin C. They often work together to recycle each other, a type of cofactor relationship that is dynamic.
Thiamine or vitamin B1 supplements are all synthetic, none are in the naturally occurring active form of thiamine diphosphate, for example. I’m glad if supps work for you and get you back on your feet, but better is not always best even in those cases compared to food. I tolerated some supps but results were not as good as food. Even a sincere supp promoter admits thiamine supps don’t work for most people.
Look up food sources of thiamine online, and other food sources of nutrients, don’t be lazy, learn how yourself.
Denaturing can occur through extraction processes using solvents, heat, or oxidation when things are chopped up, depends what it is.
Some extraction processes are beneficial like organic CO2 extraction to decaffinate black tea for its flavonoids.
Arguments for standardization through extraction assume the measuring a denatured product is more important than actually getting results. You can take more of the whole to compensate for uncertainty at a cheaper cost, plus take advantage the uncertainty of nutrients you don’t know about.
The Paradigm Problem
People often act like that if you don’t know it, it doesn’t exist:
If it’s not on the label it’s not in the product.
Beef only lists meat and fat, so it has no minerals and vitamins (sarcasm).
It’s better to absolutely know one thing, than to trust the design of nature and the hundreds of nutrients it provides. (sarcasm)
The most important thing is to feel like you are in control and know everything. (sarcasm)
Actually, the most important thing is to get observable results, including in the short term as immediate feedback. This means we can experiment with the uncertainties of whole food which are too complex to fully understand the why of all the chemistry. We can know how it makes us feel immediately and long term….until we plateau or regress and have to discover the next weak link or rate limiting factor.
One way to estimate future results is energetic testing, like muscle testing, I use even with products online. I can also often feel just be looking at foods or products.
Your health care provider might do this in person so you can experience changes in your muscle strength as a future indicator.
Even if you can’t feel what I can, you can still learn to feel results right away after you eat something, as many people do learn to do.
Whole herb often have over 100 more additional nutrients all working together as nature designed. As bulk powders with less processing they are cheaper, too.
Examples:
AMPK activators are related to burning glucose and fat for mitochondrial energy in a wide variety of tissues including the liver and immune system, just to indicate that mitochondria is about all cells of all organs.
There is patented source in many products called Actiponin.
Wow, they created new word, which is really deep, they must know something about chemistry I don’t. Except that magnesium stearate food in many products totally ruins it for me.
Acitponin and AMPK activators in general usually relay on an extract of Gynostemma usually sold as Jiaogulans
Gynostemma has 144 kinds of saponins according to Chinese Herbalist, Ron Tee Garden founder of Dragon Herbs, which are also some of the most useful ingredients in the more well known tonics ginseng.
Dragon Herbs has a lot of information on herbs. They sell high quality products that are well sourced and with rare variations of reishi and ginseng, for example, as spiritual tonics as well.
Ron says that gynostemma is one of the greatest tonics of all and is called “miracle grass” in Asian for longevity. This means its benefits are very wide ranging and continuous, not “for” a particular symptom and then you are done
It is much cheaper so can be consumed in higher quantities. Dragon Herbs only sell it in capsules usually with other herbs as a specialty product, as they are high end business. There is much more value to buy it in bulk by the pound.
So eat grass to become as strong as a bull, like the vegans say.
No, wait, that’s don’t drink milk because it will turn you into a 2000 pound cow and a total idiot.
I don’t understand vegans, they are a little too deep for me, I’m just a simple guy.
I feel like mooing now.
Biotin supplements are all synthetic and I can’t tolerate any of them.
I only know of one whole herb source from Sesbania. It’s an extract that works, but only part of the source herb which has many more nutrients, is less denatured from extraction and cheaper in bulk.
You can’t find in the USA even from Indian herb suppliers even though it is commonly used in Ayurvedic herbal medicine as agastya, agasti, august tree leaf, and hummingbird tree leaf.
You have to order it from India. This is how distorted and poorly developed the market is.
Suppliers will list benefits a mile long, so long I will not even attempt to summarize.
It’s “for” dysentery. Oh wait, now it no longer has biotin, because it’s for something else. I actually have to tell people when I am being sarcastic.
Quercetin is a flavonoid with many benefits.
The highest source is said to be Japanica Sophora flower buds, which also have the flavs rutin and luteolin.
Extracts are often sold separately, but it would be better to buy the whole herb in bulk to get all three and other nutrients you don’t know about.
I find it is more effective to use various fruit and berry sources for my flavonoids with higher levels of vitamin C. They often work together to recycle each other, a type of cofactor relationship that is dynamic.
Thiamine or vitamin B1 supplements are all synthetic, none are in the naturally occurring active form of thiamine diphosphate, for example. I’m glad if supps work for you and get you back on your feet, but better is not always best even in those cases compared to food. I tolerated some supps but results were not as good as food. Even a sincere supp promoter admits thiamine supps don’t work for most people.
Look up food sources of thiamine online, and other food sources of nutrients, don’t be lazy, learn how yourself.
Denaturing can occur through extraction processes using solvents, heat, or oxidation when things are chopped up, depends what it is.
Some extraction processes are beneficial like organic CO2 extraction to decaffinate black tea for its flavonoids.
Arguments for standardization through extraction assume the measuring a denatured product is more important than actually getting results. You can take more of the whole to compensate for uncertainty at a cheaper cost, plus take advantage the uncertainty of nutrients you don’t know about.
The Paradigm Problem
People often act like that if you don’t know it, it doesn’t exist:
If it’s not on the label it’s not in the product.
Beef only lists meat and fat, so it has no minerals and vitamins (sarcasm).
It’s better to absolutely know one thing, than to trust the design of nature and the hundreds of nutrients it provides. (sarcasm)
The most important thing is to feel like you are in control and know everything. (sarcasm)
Actually, the most important thing is to get observable results, including in the short term as immediate feedback. This means we can experiment with the uncertainties of whole food which are too complex to fully understand the why of all the chemistry. We can know how it makes us feel immediately and long term….until we plateau or regress and have to discover the next weak link or rate limiting factor.
One way to estimate future results is energetic testing, like muscle testing, I use even with products online. I can also often feel just be looking at foods or products.
Your health care provider might do this in person so you can experience changes in your muscle strength as a future indicator.
Even if you can’t feel what I can, you can still learn to feel results right away after you eat something, as many people do learn to do.
Eat to energize, detoxify & immunize.
Move to circulate, align, & relax.
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Move to circulate, align, & relax.
Primal Rejuvenation Health Coaching
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Free Assessment
See how I support you fully in
Health Coaching Steps
I work over video: Facebook, Zoom, Google, from Michigan, USA
[email protected]
Follow me on FACEBOOK:
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Systematic
enough to make a difference
Simple
enough to implement
Sensitive
to individual needs
